Labour market information vs labour market intelligence - a useful distinction?

04-April-2007

[ nature of LMI ]
Is it helpful to differentiate between labour market information and labour market intelligence? Add your thoughts and comments by replying to this post.
This discussion item is linked to Defining LMI

Do you think it's helpful to differentiate between labour market information and labour market intelligence?

How can advisers communicate 'bad news' about e.g. gender segregated industries in a way that is honest, but does not collude with inequality by deterring potential entrants?

Add your thoughts and comments by replying to this post.



Lucy Marris; 04-April-2007 16:52:02 forum (1)

1 comments.

Latest comment:
Labour Market Intelligence is IAG's 'Added value'?; 08-February-2008 15:21:29 by Roxine Beaumont-Sempill

LMI in the context of government policies

04-April-2007

[ lmi_and_policy , nature of LMI ]
Just how important is LMI to governments and why? Should those with an interest in guidance work celebrate this enthusiasm for LMI or view it with suspicion? What do you think?
This discussion item is linked to LMI and policy

LMI is of demonstrable interest to government - as the Leitch Review of 2006 makes clear. Leitch recommends the establishment of a new, universal careers service for England that places 'labour market focused' advice at its heart.

It recommends the formation in England of a new universal adult careers service, learning from those elsewhere in the UK, providing a universal source of labour market focused, accessible careers advice for adults.

(p.22) from The Stationery Office (2006) Leitch Review of Skills: Prosperity for all in the global economy - world class skills

Just how important is LMI to governments and why? Should those with an interest in guidance work celebrate this enthusiasm for LMI or view it with suspicion? What do you think?



Lucy Marris; 04-April-2007 07:21:02 forum (1)

1 comments.

Latest comment:
Vocational Education needs LMI but it would be a shame to totally kill education for its own sake; 08-February-2008 15:41:37 by Roxine Beaumont-Sempill

Frameworks for practice - learning from case studies

04-April-2007

[ frameworks for practice ]
Have your say about the application of frameworks to cases by replying to this post.
This discussion item is linked to Case studies : Recognising and applying frameworks in practice

What do you make of the different approaches applied to Philip? Add your own ideas, reflections, comments and anecdotes here. How aware are you of your own 'framework for practice' when you are using LMI in IAG? What other things might influence how you use LMI?

NB - don't forget to also look at the related case studies under 'getting back to basics' case studies within the section on the nature of LMI. These consider what sorts of LMI clients and practitioners expect to access as part of an IAG process.



Lucy Marris; 04-April-2007 07:14:44 forum (0)

Back to basics - learning from case studies.

04-April-2007

[ nature of LMI ]
Add your own ideas, reflections, comments and anecdotes about these or other cases by commenting to this.
This discussion item is linked to Case studies - back to basics: what sort of LMI do clients find useful?

What do you make of Robin, Jo, Li Russell and Angelina's LMI requirements? Add your own ideas, reflections, comments and anecdotes by commenting on this post.

How much are you using LMI with clients in your work? What sort of LMI is most useful and how do you bring it into a guidance context?

NB - don't forget to also look at the related case studies under 'frameworks for practice'. These consider how practitioners use LMI will vary, according to their conscious or unconscious principles for practice.



Lucy Marris; 04-April-2007 07:09:06 forum (0)

Jargon Amnesty - the language of LMI

04-April-2007

[ nature of LMI ]
What do you make of the jargon used in LMI? Have your say by replying to this post.
This discussion item is linked to Glossaries of LMI Terms

What do you make of the jargon used in LMI? It isn't always easy to make sense of the language of GVA and SOC and NOMIS.

The glossaries in this on line learning resource give some great definitions that help to de-mystify the process, but have they done enough?

Why not add your comments on jargon here, you can include your own definitions too - serious or frivolous are equally welcome. Can you also share ideas on how you have made the language of LMI more accessible to your clients, or are you willing to own up to any corkers you've made in relation to LMI so we can all be made more aware of the pitfalls. Have your say by replying to this post.



Lucy Marris; 04-April-2007 07:03:54 forum (0)

The Nature of LMI and its role in Career Guidance - discussions

04-April-2007

[ nature of LMI ]
This weblog post introduces the discussions related to the first module: 'The Nature of LMI and its role in Career Guidance'
This discussion item is linked to The Nature of LMI and its role in Career Guidance

LMI is a huge topic! The 'Nature of LMI' module of the LMI Learning Resource includes discussions relating to LMI jargon, LMI and policy and ideas from practitioners about what LMI they find useful in practice based on a series of case studies.

If you want to browse all the entries for these separate discussions in one place, you can do that by viewing items with the category "nature of LMI". You can add new comments to any of those items, and can also add your own new blog posts on related topics if you wish. Or add a comment to this topic by replying here.



Lucy Marris; 04-April-2007 06:54:48 forum (0)

Critiquing the claims - examining a Construction Skills press release

17-November-2006

[ choosing between sources ]
On the 3rd April 2006 Construction Skills launched a press release that claimed research shows young women feel let down by the careers advice they receive. But how credible is this research?

On the 3rd April 2006 Construction Skills launched a press release that claimed research shows young women feel let down by the careers advice they receive. But how credible is this research?

This discussion item is linked to Dos and Don'ts when choosing between sources of LMI

Gender stereotyping is clearly a cause for huge concern, but if the problem is incorrectly attributed then it can't be tackled effectively.

Based on this press release, do you feel the claim is justified, if not, what else would you like to know?

Reply to this weblog post to have your say...



Lucy Marris; 17-November-2006 13:25:21 forum (2)

2 comments.

Latest comment:
Career guidance: how bad can it get?; 29-November-2006 14:27:56 by jenny bimrose

Audit your LMI skills here!

18-October-2006

The IER team are involved in putting together an online module to help careers practitioners develop their skills in using Labour Market Information effectively as part of a career guidance process. This is very much 'work in progress' at the moment, and will link to the NGRF Future Trends website content.

Using Labour Market Information Effectively within IAG
On-line module for practice

To give you a bit of context, the overall aim of the module is ‘To develop the ability to access, understand and manipulate Labour Market Information (LMI) as part of effective career guidance.'  It is planned that this module will address the following themes - though please note that the structure may evolve in response to your feedback:

1. The nature of LMI and its role in career guidance
2. The changing labour market: key issues for guidance
3. LMI for guidance: locating sources
4. LMI for guidance: choosing between sources
5. Different approaches to using LMI as part of the career guidance process

The example that you can link to here, The Practitioner's LMI Competency Audit is just one small part of the module.  It is intended to allow you to reflect on what you already know in relation to LMI and what you might need to know.  

Please remember this is work in progress! Ultimately a user will be able to save their responses to this 'audit' in their own personalised web-space, and reflect on what action needs to be taken to address any areas for development.  At the moment, your answers will not be saved, so you may wish to print out your work if you would like to keep it.

At this stage it would be really helpful if you could:

Go to this link

http://www.guidance-research.org/Members/lucymarris/competence_check

  1. work through the screens as you see fit! 
  2. How long (approximately) did you spend exploring and working on this audit?
  3. First impressions (visually) - any ideas on how to improve the visual impact/ or suggestions for appropriate images are very welcome 
  4. First impressions (content)
  5. Scope of the competencies listed - any glaring omissions
  6. Please indicate in what ways the exercise was interesting or useful
  7. Please highlight any problems or frustrations
  8. Please add any reflections on your use of LMI that came up as a result of the exercise
  9. Any additional comments or thoughts

Your comments however brief or comprehensive will be of enormous value in creating what we hope will be a valuable resource for guidance practice.  You will need to join the site and log in to use the reply feature to respond.  Enjoy!



Lucy Marris; 18-October-2006 14:15:51 forum (4)

4 comments.

Latest comment:
feedback; 19-October-2006 16:35:26 by corinnatill

Bringing Industry and IAG Services Together

03-May-2006

The Sector Skills Councils’ IAG Project which aims to enhance the provision and use of sector specific LMI within information advice and guidance.

The Skills for Business Network (SfBn) is working to enhance the provision of sector-specific Information Advice and Guidance.  Twelve Sector Skills Councils have teamed up to plan, develop and deliver IAG services that will benefit careers advisors and individuals.  This project will also facilitate the use and interpretation by advisors of labour market intelligence.  This, in turn, will help clients raise their awareness of sectors and industries in order to make meaningful job and career choices. 

The Government Skills Strategy sets out proposals for reform for information, advice and guidance for adults in England.  This will include the development of an infrastructure to support adults that is universally available, highly respected and well used.  This Sector Skills Councils’ Information, Advice and Guidance Project links directly to the government review by providing an employer perspective through the SfBn.  Better sector intelligence will help employers to fill skills shortages and ensure they are recruiting people with a good skills ‘match’ to meet their requirements.

You can find out more about the project from the document attached, but you can also use this forum to give your reaction to the initiative.  Perhaps you've been to the workshops they have initiated under the scheme?



Lucy Marris; 03-May-2006 16:00:15 forum (0)

Useful websites for budding animators

26-April-2006

I recently attended a workshop hosted by Skillset where there was an opportunity to meet industry representatives currently working in the audio-visual sector.
One of the representatives (thanks Jill!) supplied a list of useful websites that would be of interest to potential entrants to a media career linked to animation.  I thought it might be helpful to other careers advisers to share them here.  Enjoy!  You can link to them from the del.icio.us social bookmarking site under ft/audiovisual - and I will keep updating the link with other websites as I come across them.  Perhaps if anyone has other ideas they could also post them in this discussion so that we can build up a resource of useful websites as this is such a competitive industry to get into all contributions I'm sure are welcome!


Lucy Marris; 26-April-2006 17:18:30 forum (0)