The role of LMI in guidance
28-February-2005
permalink comments (10) forum (10) email thisAs a practitioner in a Higher Education context I've been amazed at how much use I've been able to make of the LMI section of this website. It's helped me in providing a context for reports that consider destinations of graduates in terms of the broader labour market, provided an overview of occupational areas that fall outside my existing knowledge and caseload, and I've even given the website out to clients who are trying to research particular sectors to give them a sense of the existing opportunity structure. It seems to me this area of the site is an important resource, helping me to develop my professional expertise, build my understanding of the labour market, produce more robustly supported reports as part of my role and assisted me in direct work with individuals!
This is a great resource, but it has made me reflect on the importance of LMI and I'm wondering how other users of this forum view LMI. Do practitioners have enough time to keep up to date with LMI, how important is it in practice, for example does it fit with the Personal Adviser role within connexions or is it being pushed out by other priorities. I'm not sure if individual practitioners have all that much say in deciding how much time to spend on this aspect of their work. Any comments?
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1 The usefulness of LMI
The development of both the structure and content of the LMU Future Trends was produced after several consultations with guidance practitioners, trainers, managers, researchers and policy makers. These consultations revealed that there was a real need for labour market information particularly online, accessible LMI distilled from several sources of information covering everything from information with an equal opportunities dimension, regional data, qualification level of the workforce and future employment opportunities in the sector. In producing the LMI we have tried to write sector information that is both comprehensive, easy to ready and useful whilst meeting the needs of practitioners. I know several researchers that have used LMI Future Trends to inform the project work they are doing.
2 the elusive labour market
3 LMI in guidance - what are the issues?
I've also heard people at various events and in various forums express concern about the (supposed) diminished profile of LMI in the vocational guidance process. Longitudinal case study research we're undertaking here at Warwick has revealed that of the 50 practitioners participating in the research who were operating across varied professional contexts, 49 used some type of LMI. However, this research does not claim to be representative of all guidance practitioners. So - why is concern being voiced more generally and do we have the evidence to suggest that LMI is not being used in the guidance process?
It's clear from Rachel's contribution that LMI is still being taught in initial training, but what of the profile its given in work-based routes to qualification? And to what extent do delivery contexts support (even require) that practitioners develop and up-date their LMI knowledge? I've often heard practitioners say that there is no longer a requirement placed on them to undertake a minimum number of employer visits and or job studies (as used to be the case). And even in contexts where this sort of contact is not necessarily ruled out, the pressures placed on practitioners to undertake client contact work makes routine visits to employing organisations virtually impossible.
And then, of course, there's the problem of availability of LMI. In an earlier research project into LMI in guidance in which I was involved, practitioners explained how - even though all the LMI they could ever require was 'out there somewhere' - they lacked the time to research and retrieve this information from various sources and interpret it for their clients. These difficulties have informed the LMI Future Trends sectionof this website, as Sally-Anne indicates.
Recently, I've been asked to provide an input for a national IAG conference on using LMI in guidance - so it has clearly been identifed as a need by the conference organisers.
Could it be the case that, with the re-focusing agenda taking priority over the past few years, practitioners have had other priorities to deal with? And maybe we're seeing a re-evaluation of this approach with a new emphasis now placed on LMI in guidance?
4 LMI
5 LMI in Guidance
6 LMI in the PGD/QCG
7 LMI within RNIB guidance
8 LMI in work based training
I have completed both the QCG and the NVQ 4 in Advice and Guidance and although I wasn't required to do it due to my previous study, other people working for the same company who were undertaking the NVQ as their sole route of training were required to undertake an occupational study and 25 employer visits.
The company I work for has now changed from being an independent "Careers Company" contracted to deliver the Connexions service, to a direct delivery Connexions service. Their are currently around 100 people undertaking the NVQ, including "Intensive" Personal Advisers and with all the pressure to get everyone through standards have changed with the number of visits required slashed and the occupational study changing to either an occupational or agency study. One of the assessors I have spoken to told me she has seen new Advisers starting work in schools with no idea how to access information about the labour market.
Due to the way NVQ's are structured they really are only as good as the company providing the training and so it is perfectly possible to complete the NVQ with no knowledge of how to access labour market Information.
9 Using LMI in guidance
10 Ann Mason
I work for Skillset, the Sector Skills Council for the audio-visual industries. Skillset is also a Pathfinder SSC and is one of the participating SSCs in the project. We have run numerous workshops for careers advisors (some of you will know us!) and we work closely with IER to help advisors navigate LMI and interpret it to enhance the service they offer to clients. Evaluation from all (sector specific) workshops has shown that advisors are really keen to know more and to know about the sources of LMI. So through IER, all SSCs in the project are developing the sectoral LMI on this website - Pathfinder LMI should be up there soon, up-to-date and comprehensive!!
Through this project we are also building on our previous workshop model and rolling it out with the three other Pathfinders through a series of regional workshops to be held from April to September. This is a model that SSCs across the Skills for Business Network will be able to use and develop for their own sectors. Government has also recognised the importance of LMI within the planned revisions to the IAG infrastructure for adults. Again we have worked with IER to research sources of LMI - and highlight its limitations - and the IAG Review Group (overseeing this part of the Skills Strategy reforms) will be looking at the whole area of LMI in the coming months. Any feedback you would like to provide will be warmly welcomed as we will be refining the workshop delivery as we go along. Reply here or contact me on annm@skillset.org. Would love to hear from you.
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